Emperor Constantine

Christianity is a copycat religion created by Emperor Constantine (for political purposes). (Incidentally, Constantine murdered his wife and his son, and later,  the Church made him a Saint.)

(For greater shocking revelations, see “Crimes of the Popes”, here) : )

Saint Constantine’s  copycat religion was based upon a myth (The Persian savior god Mithra, crucified 600 B.C. ?  400 B.C.?), which was based on other similar myths, all the way back to Chrishna of India (a mythical god that some claim was “crucified” around 1200 B.C.). There were 16 mythical crucifixions before Christ. The belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion of Christ.  Of the 16 crucifixions, most were born of a virgin and about half of them on December 25th.

At, take a look at the book “Beyond All Religion-Beyond religious SCRIPTURES and practices that support intolerance violence and even war, A PEACEFUL WORLD AWAITS”. Website: Included: How is this for religious intolerance? Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” Muhammad married a 6 year old girl. Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism had 24 wives, one was 14 years old. Smith was convicted of fraud (of being an “imposter”- a con man), in a court of law.. Then he wrote “The Book of Mormon..”. The story of Moses is patterned after the story of Sargon the Great. Moses did not exist.   Christianity was invented for political purposes by the Roman  Emperor Constantine (“The Great”) in 325 A.D. based on the myth of Mithra (Persian savior god born on December 25th). Look at “Compassion Center” on Facebook. A wonderful alternative to religion.

Emperor Constantine-continued: There were too many religions in Rome in 325 A.D.  A Council was called in an endeavor to amalgamate the many religions of the Roman Empire into one.  Christianity plagiarized older myths and legends historicized to suit the Roman Catholic Church while combining the numerous religions existing at the time (Krishna, Horus, Mithraism, Osirian, Isis, and many other mystery religions).  For unity and to stop all the conflicts between the numerous religions…

Christianity was INVENTED. Eusebius (Bishop of Caesarea in Palestine  “Father of Church History“) attended the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. and was a friend of Emperor Constantine, who also attended and made the keynote speech. Constantine  instructed Eusebius to organize the compilation of a uniform collection of new writings developed from primary aspects of the religious texts submitted at the council.  Eusebius has been described as  follows:  Jacob Burckhardt (19th century cultural historian) dismissed Eusebius as “the first thoroughly dishonest historian of antiquity”. He has been also described as “a political theologian”. He favored doctoring his history in his own words to “be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity”. Edward Gibbon (18th century historian –“The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”) dismissed his testimony on the number of martyrs and impugned his honesty At first, there was controversy about the new religion at the Council of Nicaea.  Some claimed it was a fiction and Christ was a fiction, but they did not prevail. .

(To be clear on this matter, I say don’t trust Eusebius’s  reports of the Apostles or how the Apostles died, and be suspicious of all of his writings.)  – Author Samuel Butler

Eusebius then arranged for scribes to produce fifty sumptuous copies to be written on parchment in a legible manner, and in a convenient portable form, by professional scribes thoroughly accomplished in their art (ibid.).

Bishop Eusebius

These orders, said Eusebius, were followed by the immediate execution of the work itself we sent him [Constantine] magnificently and elaborately bound volumes of three-fold and four-fold forms (Life of Constantine, vol. iv, p.36).  They were  the New Testimonies, and this is the first mention (c. 331) of the New Testament in the historical record. With his instructions fulfilled,  Constantine then decreed that the New Testimonies would thereafter be called the word of the Roman Saviour God (Life of Constantine, vol. iii, p. 29) and official to all presbyters sermonising in the Roman Empire.

He then ordered earlier presbyterial manuscripts and the records of the council burnt and declared that any man found concealing writings should be stricken off from his shoulders (beheaded).





In 391 A.D., Christian Emperor Theodosius I ordered the destruction of all pagan (“heathen” they were also called) temples. The Christian Patriarch Theophilus of Alexandria (Egypt) complied with this request. Seizing this opportunity, Theophilus exerted himself to the utmost to expose the pagan mysteries to contempt, the Serapeum also he showed full of extravagant superstitions, (and) the commander-in-chief of the troops in Egypt, assisted Theophilus in demolishing the heathen temples (and) then he destroyed the Serapeum. -Historia Ecclesiastica

The Serapeum housed the Great Library of Alexandria. Why there are no records of Jesus Christ?

Federic William Farrar

It is not possible to find in any legitimate religious or historical writings compiled between the beginning of the first century and well into the fourth century any reference to Jesus Christ and the spectacular events that the Church says accompanied his life. This confirmation comes from Frederic Farrar (1831-1903) of Trinity College, Cambridge:

“It is amazing that history has not embalmed for us even one certain or definite saying or circumstance in the life of the Saviour of mankind … there is no statement in all history that says anyone saw Jesus or talked with him. Nothing in history is more astonishing than the silence of contemporary writers about events relayed in the four Gospels.”  (The Life of Christ, Frederic W. Farrar, Cassell, London, 1874)

This situation arises from a conflict between history and New Testament narratives.  Dr Tischendorf made this comment:

“We must frankly admit that we have no source of information with respect to the life of Jesus Christ other than ecclesiastic writings assembled during the fourth century.” (Codex Sinaiticus, Dr Constantin von Tischendorf, British Library, London)

There is an explanation for those hundreds of years of silence: the construct of Christianity did not begin until after the first quarter of the fourth century, and that is why Pope Leo X (d. 1521) called Christ a “fable” (Cardinal Bembo:  His Letters…, op. cit.), and later Pope Paul III expressed similar sentiments, saying that there was no valid document to demonstrate the existence of Christ.  He confessed that Jesus never existed, adding that he was no other than the sun, adored in its Mithraic sect…”


You will be surprised:   From: :

What (your local) Church doesn’t know and/or wouldn’t want you to know,  if they knew.

It has often been emphasized that Christianity is unlike any other religion, for it stands or falls by certain events which are alleged to have occurred during a short period of time some 20 centuries ago. Those stories are presented in the New Testament, and as new evidence is revealed it will become clear that they do not represent historical realities.

The Church agrees, saying:

“Our documentary sources of knowledge about the origins of Christianity and its earliest development are chiefly the New Testament Scriptures, the authenticity of which we must, to a great extent, take for granted.” (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. iii, p. 712)

The Church makes extraordinary admissions about its New Testament. For example, when discussing the origin of those writings, “the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era” (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).

This statement conflicts with priesthood assertions that the earliest Gospels were progressively written during the decades following the death of the Gospel (sic) Jesus Christ. In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that, “the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”– (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).

That is some 350 years after the time the Church claims that a Jesus Christ walked the sands of Palestine, and here the true story of Christian origins slips into one of the biggest black holes in history. There is, however, a reason why there were no New Testaments until the fourth century: they were not written until then, and here we find evidence of the greatest misrepresentation of all time.  It was British-born Flavius Constantinus (Constantine, originally Custennyn or Custennin) (272-337) who authorized the compilation of the writings now called the New Testament.

Yes, but what about references to the four Gospels supposedly before the 3rd Century A.D.?

For example: What about Tacitus, Roman Historian, who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?

Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism:  In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.

From: Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing: (1) no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians (2) there was not a multitude of Christians in Rome at that date (3) Christian was not a common term in the first century (4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city (5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome (6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus (7) Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate Yes, but what about Josephus?

His reference to Jesus in Testimonium Flavianum has been claimed as a later addition, (Forgery-Author) not questioning the authenticity of the main work.



In part:

Josephus’s Testimonium Flavianum Examined Linguistically Greek Analysis Demonstrates the Passage a Forgery In Toto

From D.M. Murdock 
 Author of
Who Was Jesus?
 D.M.Murdock[at] (With gratitude to Dr. Paul J. Hopper for his review of this paper)
The passage about Jesus Christ in Jewish historian Josephus’s writings
 has been debated for centuries, as concerns its authenticity totally, partially or not at all 
. This brief “testimonium” is proffered by Christian apologists as the “best evidence” for the historicity of Jesus, but it has been declared many times to be a forgery in toto. A recent study by a renowned linguist confirms this analysis of the entire passage as an interpolation by a Christian scribe, likely during the fourth century or late

Yes, but what about Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan 112 A.D. (Pliny was not a contemporary of Jesus, and he never mentions “Jesus”?) Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 112), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped “Christus”.

What about that?

Charles Guignebert

Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable historical evidence:

“Only the most robust credulity could  reckon this assertion as admissible evidence for the historicity of Jesus” –

Nevertheless, I was concerned about the possibility of far older Gospels when I was stating that Christianity was invented around 325 A.D., but the research thread leads back to Eusebius, the FORGER, (“Papias, quoted by Eusebius…”).

Eusebius was the dishonest Church Father historian of antiquity who made up a lot of Church history. we shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity”. The research thread (about older Gospels) also leads to the “spurious” writings of Irenaeus: .



What about  pre-nicene so-called “Early Christian” (Gnostic?) writings? They disagreed with each other, were riddled with conflict and forgeries, of questionable and confusing timing and origin , had conflicting opinions about supposed truths,  and were not coherent enough for an organized religion. So the myth of Mithra, the Persian Savior God, was chosen by Emperor Constantine and Bishop Eusebius as the model to create the new religion , Christianity.  What if there are references to Christ and/or Jesus in pre-nicene writings? That doesn’t mean Jesus or Christ existed.  What if there are references to “fairies” in pre-nicene literature?  That wouldn’t mean fairies existed,  prior to the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD or later, even if the Council claimed the existence of fairies and made it doctrine, with severe penalties for those who denied their existence.

Yes, but what about Church father Justin Martyr’s purported use of the New Testament gospels? From Acharya S., Biblical scholar: ( “No verbatim quotes or unambiguous citations from the canonical gospels as we have them appear anywhere in Justin’s extant works.” Matthew, Mark and Luke are never named by Justin; nor is John. Nor does Justin Martyr name any of the evangelists in any known text.

All of the Gospels were written by anonymous authors, not by the actual disciples .  In fact, the Church doesn’t even have the anonymous writings that purport to be written by a disciple that was written before the middle of the 4th century. “The earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”– (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).

That is saying, they have no manuscript of Mark,. no manuscript of Matthew nor Luke, nor John, written before the middle of the  4th century.

Retired Episcopal Bishop says Hell is an invention of the church to control people with fear:

Information about Eusebius, Constantine, and Paul. FATHER EUSEBIUS, FORGER: (One view, for what it’s worth-a bit harsh) _______________________________________

About beyondallreligion

Samuel Butler, Author: BEYOND ALL RELIGION Most all religions are based upon a bedrock of lies. Christianity was invented by Emperor Constantine , for political purposes, based upon the myth of Mithra, a Persian savior god born on December 25 , son of a virgin. Mithra performed miracles and was later crucified. Pope Leo X (died 1521) called Christ a “Fable”. Later Pope Paul III expressed similar sentiments. Moses is based on the Sumerian life and legends of Sargon I, King of Akkad, “set in a basket of rushes and “cast into the river”. Egyptians kept exhausting hieroglyphic records. There is a complete absence of any record of Moses leading over 600,000 men, women and children away from Pharaoh’s army. Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, was convicted in a court of Law of being an “impostor”, today a fraud, con man, in 1826. He wrote the Book of Mormon soon after. Question: You decide: Does the text of the verses of the Qur’an correspond exactly to those revealed to Muhammad directly as the words of God, delivered to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel, as claimed? Sample or Buy New Book “Beyond All Religion”, 152 pgs, $9.95 at (Kindle edition $3.49) or send mailing address and $9.95 to Sam Butler, SB 197, POB 25292, Miami, FL 33102."
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  1. All bishops can go flog themselves along with so-called gods,why I aughta’!!!

  2. shavonne7100 says:

    Good post! (:

  3. shavonne7100 says:

    Good post, very informative. I think I’ll show this to all the people who insist their religion is completely original.

  4. Donnie says:

    Very interesting and informative, I’m surprised no one has made a documentary about this…or have they? Anyway, I would suggest including citations to keep it from sounding propaganda-y. If someone can refer to the unbiased texts from where this information came from, I think it would bolster the credibility immensely.

  5. Yes, I have added citations.

  6. “the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era”
    (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
    In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that,
    “the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”
    (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).

    Yes, but what about Tacitus, Roman Historian,
    who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?
    Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism:
    In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.
    Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing: (1) there is no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians; (2) there was not a
    multitude of Christians in Rome at that date; (3) ‘Christian’ was not a common term in the first century; (4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city; (5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome; (6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus; (7)
    Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate;
    Yes, but what about Josephus?
    His reference to Jesus in Testimonium Flavianum has been claimed as a later addition, not questioning the authenticity of the main work.
    Yes, but what about Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan 112 AD (Pliny was not a contemporary of Jesus, and he never mentions
    “Jesus”)? Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 112), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped “Christus”.
    What about that?
    Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable historical evidence: “Only the most robust credulity could reckon this assertion as admissible evidence for the historicity of Jesus” –
    You mention Princeton. from my book:
    Samuel Butler 7/10/2010
    Bart D. Ehrman, the author of “Jesus Interrupted,
    Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (and
    Why We Don’t Know About Them”) (HarperCollins, 2009)
    was a fundamentalist evangelical Christian, who was
    certain that every word in the Bible had been inspired by
    God when he entered Princeton Theological Seminary,
    intending to become a Professor of the Bible.
    As a seeker of truth, things did not turn out as he planned.
    He found in historical-critical bible study classes things
    that biblical scholars have unearthed in the last two
    hundred years that graduates that even go on to become
    pastors don’t and won’t mention in their sermons:
    That the authors of the New Testament have diverging
    views about who Jesus was and how salvation works.
    That it contains books that were forged in the name of the
    apostles by Christian writers who lived decades later.
    Established Christian doctrines-such as the suffering
    messiah, the divinity of Jesus, and the trinity were
    inventions of still later theologians.
    The idea that Jesus was divine was a later Christian
    invention found only in John, the last gospel, written some
    60 years after the events described, and written by an
    unknown author. The raising of Lazurus from the dead,
    and the divinity of Jesus are not found in any of the other
    3 gospels.
    The belief that Jesus was God or divine was not the belief
    of Jesus’s earliest followers, nor of Jesus himself.
    Bart D. Ehrman now describes himself as “an agnostic
    scholar of the New Testament.”
    You want details of the Crucifixions before Christ. Here are details of 16. Six would suffice to make the point that it was common for a “GOD” to be crucified :

  7. The Church makes extraordinary admissions about its New Testament. For example, when discussing the origin of those writings,
    “the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era”
    (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
    This statement conflicts with priesthood assertions that the earliest Gospels were progressively written during the decades following the death of the Gospel (sic) Jesus Christ.
    In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that,
    “the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”
    (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
    Yes, but what about Tacitus, Roman Historian,
    who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?
    Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism:
    In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.
    Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing: (1) there is no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians; (2) there was not a
    multitude of Christians in Rome at that date; (3) ‘Christian’ was not a common term in the first century; (4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city; (5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome; (6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus; (7)
    Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate;
    Yes, but what about Josephus?
    His reference to Jesus in Testimonium Flavianum has been claimed as a later addition, not questioning the authenticity of the main work.
    Yes, but what about Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan 112 AD (Pliny was not a contemporary of Jesus, and he never mentions
    “Jesus”)? Pliny the Younger (c. 61 – c. 112), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped “Christus”.
    What about that?
    Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable historical evidence: “Only the most robust credulity could reckon this assertion as admissible evidence for the historicity of Jesus” –
    I was concerned about the possibility of far older Gospels when I was stating that Christianity was invented around 325A.D., but the research thread leads back to Eusebius, the FORGER, (“Papias, quoted by Eusebius”).

    Eusebius was the dishonest Church Father historian of antiquity who made up a lot of Church history. “we shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity”. The research thread (about older Gospels) also leads to the “spurious” writings of Irenaeus: .

    In any case, the Catholic Encyclopedia itself supports the thesis that the Gospels of Christianity were written no earlier than the 4th Century.
    You want details of Crucifixions before Christ. Here are details of 16. Six would suffice to make the point that it was common for “Gods” to be crucified.

  8. quedula says:

    A brilliant, fascinating post. I had already picked up bits of this history but have never seen it all collated into a concise readable whole. Well done.

  9. Jon M. Wilson says:

    Your conclusions are startling, but I’m not sure all of your facts are accurate.

    The oldest fragments of NT writings date back farther than the Nicene Council, but that determination is made by subjective analysis, of aspects like writing styles, rather than by any concrete method like carbon dating (which I don’t think would work for papyrus anyway, but I don’t know).
    There are many volumes of Christian writings, with thousands of pages and hundreds of thousands of words, that predate the council. I know because I own a copy of the collection, and i have a hard time thinking that these are all the work of one crafty historian. Perhaps I misconstrued your meaning there, though.

    Granted, I definitely agree that Christianity is entirely a fabrication. I just think it was an earlier one, with roots in the conflicting sects of Judaism, including Messianic Judaism, that date back to the 2nd and 3rd centuries BCE.

  10. Laura says:

    Very nice post. If only those who are blinded by their faith would get as educated about it. 🙂

    The Church makes extraordinary admissions about its New Testament. For example, when discussing the origin of those writings,
    “the most distinguished body of academic opinion ever assembled” (Catholic Encyclopedias, Preface) admits that the Gospels “do not go back to the first century of the Christian era”
    (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, p. 137, pp. 655-6).
    This statement conflicts with priesthood assertions that the earliest Gospels were progressively written during the decades following the death of the Gospel (sic) Jesus Christ.
    In a remarkable aside, the Church further admits that,
    “the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD”
    (Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).

  12. whuff says:

    Pretty good summary, but one thing that is missing about Nero is that he couldn’t possibly have persecuted Christians. There were no Christians in Rome until after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Uffington, WH. The Greatest Lie Ever Told.

  13. katharine says:

    So, I guess the Mormons aren’t any crazier than any other group of faith based believers.

  14. kayjulia says:

    Very good post. I like all references that the Roman Church admits to fabrication. However as we know most “believers” will not believe this as their whole ego is based on a lie and if this lie is found out then what do they have? They reject reason and science so what is there ? Just their fables, superstitions, customs and in some cases costumes. Mankind has a long way to go to be considered rational and intelligent.

  15. Great post, though I find it hysterical that you use the Christianized BC and AD! Most non-religious people use BCE and CE. Funny how those little things seep in even if we don’t believe in them. Thanks, culture.

  16. Excellent article! Yes, when there is absolutely no written mention whatsoever, in all the world’s secular and religious writings, of an alleged historical figure, for three centuries after the person’s supposed lifetime, the reason isn’t hard to divine: that person never existed. I’m sort of surprised that so few people realize that all the various “Bible” versions are fiction anthologies, and most of the persons, places, and events mentioned therein are fictional, with any similarity to actual persons, places, and events being purely coincidental. When people spew Bible quotes and expect others to accept them as truth, I just roll my eyes, because it’s rather like watching someone quote from a Harry Potter book, mistakenly believing it’s a history book and Harry Potter really exists. And sadly, when you try to enlighten such folks, it usually fails. “Harry Potter is *real*, I say!! *Real*!!! He *exists*!!!!” Sigh. On the one hand, I feel sorry for such folks; but on the other hand, I must admit to a sneaking urge to lay a 2×4 along side their head with some impetus.

  17. Ninoslav Milinkovic says:

    How we got 4 gospels today when at the start of Nicaean Council bishops brought over 50 of gospels, some clearly contradicting each another. Father Eusebius, this evil genius of forgery and untruth, in one of his acts whose long reaching consequences we all suffer today, declared : ‘let all gospels stay overnight on the table and let our God himself decide which are true one’. Bingo, in the morning there were only 4 left on the table. They only forgot to tell us who kept the key through the night. !

  18. Jorge says:

    Of course this is way too logical, so why would people ever “believe” it?

  19. jawbreaker says:

    Sorry about the spelling in the last post. But I am not sorry for not following a human – if he even lived- who said I must hate my loved ones to follow him. To where? Nowhere is where.

  20. jawbreaker says:

    Excellent material . However, most christians and muslims don’t know the truth and furthermore, are afraid of the truth…they believe they have some strange comfort zone sitting in massive temples and churches. Sure nuff, they were born that way, given baptism and 1st communion and all the other fortifying jesus & god materials that are unsubstantiated. Yet, they will not stray from the ‘Word.’

    Politicians have to be religious or pretend to be to have the masses that are god/jesus indoctrinated in order to get elected. Religions make most of their income tax free otherwise they would have to ante up a few billion every year to help the world economy.

    Religions give people that are subjects, the right to torture, massacre, wage war, and commit horrific atrocities on their fellow humans. I am confounded in how any person of logic can actually subscribe to and submit themselves to praying to a god or man that represents infanticide, genocide, femicide, torture, slavery and a raging inferno of hell.

    Nonetheless, things aren’t going to change. It is as if a major disease agent has been turned loose on humankind and humankind said, “Please take me, take me forever, I am yours, heart and soul, I am yours.”Any educational and fact-finding research key to reducing religious zealots in mass is unfortunately, a pipe dream. Yes indeed, pretentious religion feeds at the mouth of birth and fantasizes about the brightness in the valley of death. After all, mess with religion and your death may be imminent. They are a scary lot.

  21. InfidelAtheist says:

    Amethyst. I am a committed atheist for the last 51 years (ie since age of 11yrs). I always use BC and AD… is a generational thing……. I still think in feet and inches too… what.

  22. the tooth fairy says:

    Rational arguments don’t usually work on religious people. Otherwise there would be no religious people.

  23. mohammed abubakar sadiq says:

    pls just read this and understand ur religiou

  24. Linda says:

    All religions fake,but I know that I’m a Hebrew Israelite chosen by bloodline & that is all(:

  25. Allison Timipere says:

    Does it mean that Christianity is the result of Emperor Constantine’s singular effort? I find this contrary to previous knowledge.

  26. No, it was a team effort of Constantine and Bishop Eusebius, the most “thoroughly dishonest historian” of antiquity. They mainly accepted the myths of Mithra, and substituted Jesus doing the same things that were ascribed to Mithra, the Persian Savior God.

  27. whuff says:

    Christianity as we know it, was the mistake of Jewish slaves exported to Rome after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Hence my saying that Nero couldn’t have persecuted them in my post above. Freke and Gandy explain the mistake in The Jesus Mysteries. The mistaken ideas about Christianity were then corrupted further, at a later stage by Bishop Eusebius, who wanted to enhance his political status by filtering what went into the New Testament. The vast range of earlier writings that were available made no sense to the new Literalist Christians, who had no understanding of the true teaching and therefore thought the writings were ‘eye witness’ accounts of real events.

    The plot thickened and deepened as lies will inevitably ensure. Constantine had recognised Christianity as a religion, though himself remained a pagan. In 380 CE Theodosius declared the Christian Church to be the only religion that was recognised throughout the eastern and western empire. The powerful political organisation that was the Roman Emperor’s official church maintained its control through violence and oppression until recent times. Some branches of it still attempt to do so.

    Eusebius’ actions are inexcusable. He was educated at the academy founded by Origen in
    Caesaria, then made bishop of that city. Eusebius was a follower of the heretical Arian doctrine and as its delegate, attended the Council of Nicæa in 325 CE to argue its cause. Though the argument was lost and its leader, Arius banished, the heretic Eusebius somehow emerged as the Emperor Constantine’s biographer. Clearly to have accomplished such a feat, Eusebius owned a silvery tongue and obsequious nature. Ditching his former beliefs, he transformed himself into the Church of Rome’s historian and head propagandist. Needless to say, we must consider the work of such an unprincipled man, at best seriously unreliable and at worst, shameful invention.

    Such are the attributes of one of the earliest Catholic saints. What does it say for the rest of their lies which they have yet to admit?

  28. Zekarias_ says:

    Thanks 🙂 like I’ve said before… Christian was invented for political intention , i already known about it since i was 12.

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  30. Douglas Harder says:

    It would be quite odd if numerous cultures before the Romans actually crucified their gods because it was the Romans who came up with that form of execution. Has anyone figured out yet that there is a significant difference between a resurrection and a crucifixion?

  31. The Romans did not invent crucifixion. Crucifixion is an ancient method of deliberately painful execution in which the condemned person is tied or nailed to a large wooden cross and left to hang until dead.
    Crucifixion was in use at a comparatively high rate among the Seleucids, Carthaginians, and Romans from about the 6th century BC to the 4th century AD

  32. Douglas Harder says:

    Can you please name these gods that were crucified?



    The belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion of Christ.
    Here are 16:


    Crucifixion ?: Some say he was hung upside down from a tree. Other sources say he died from an arrow shot into his foot. Does it matter? They are different versions of a myth, anyway.

    Statement at the end of the above stated web site.
    “NOTE. — The author desires it to be understood with respect to the cases of crucifixion here briefly narrated, that they are not vouched for as actual occurrences, of which there is much ground to doubt. It has neither been his aim or desire to prove them to be real historical events, nor to establish any certain number of cases. Indeed, he deems it unimportant to know, if it could be determined, whether they are fact or fiction, or whether one God was crucified, or many. The moral lesson designed to be taught by this chapter is, simply, that the belief in the crucifixion of Gods was prevalent in various oriental or heathen countries long prior to the reported crucifixion of Christ. If this point is established — which he feels certain no reader will dispute then he is not concerned to know whether he has made out sixteen cases of crucifixion or not. Six will prove it as well as sixteen. “

  34. zeldaxlink says:

    I’ve known that Christianity was invented (and that God or Jesus isn’t real) when I was about 8. I was sick of people telling me things that I didn’t understand, so I just rage quit. I’m 14 now, and I still firmly believe that God isn’t real, and that all the people who believe he is, are brainwashed by parents who believe in the old ways.

  35. zebdi says:

    I believe there’s a documentary about this called “Selling God”

  36. Right on. Most get their religion from their parents.

  37. maxfincher says:

    Fascinating and very informative. I have always wanted to know how pre-Christian religion suddenly disappeared. The history of invented narrative and forgery by Catholicism is especially interesting. Can you recommend any books as an introduction on this subject? best, Max.

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  40. rabbnoir says:

    Re your original blog, yeah right! Doesn’t show much real scholarship, more popularist.

  41. whuff says:

    If you wish to follow up research about the religions contemporary with the original Christianity, then the book I mentioned in a previous post will be useful: Freke & Gandy’s The Jesus Mysteries.

    My own book is fully referenced too, but covers more content: from the origins of Judasim and the religion of Akhenaten, through the battles of the Celtic Christian Church against the Roman one, to the post–Enlightenment attempts to restore the original Christian values that were lost by the crude religion that we know today. The Greatest Lie Ever Told, WH Uffington.

  42. don dali says:

    it is child abuse by brainwashed parents to force their kids to a church since they are toddlers, where they are brainwashed at many levels: gold and candles for their eyes, bells and chanting for their ears, incense for their nose, and the most horrible primitive abuse: circumsison … let your kids become 18, and let them choose their own religion … if they ever buy into one !

  43. joolzey says:

    Interesting. However, in ‘Caesar’s Messiah’, Joseph Atwill suggests an earlier date for the New Testament forgeries. He describes the political climate in which the ‘fable’ of a Jewish prophet of peace was created to pacify the turbulent and militant Jewish communities. He also identifies the similarities between the narrative of Jesus’s life and the life of Titus Flavius, 1st century emperor. Where does scholarship stand on the date of authorship of the gospels? Are there good cases both for a late 4th century and 1st century authorship?

  44. Bhaskar Thumma says:

    good post. It is very informative and useful to me.

  45. ksm1672 says:

    Thank you for sharing your helpful knowledge.

  46. Pippo says:

    The Hell, a catholic invention ???

    What about murderers like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin ??? Where do they go after death ???

    There must be a reward and a punishment …

  47. Hitler and Stalin had Catholic Backgrounds. Stalin was a seminary student (wanted to become a priest). Where anybody goes after death is a good question. A 64$ question. Lenin’s brother was killed by the Tsar. Payback? I think they we all reincarnate. Their successors may walk among us, with new lessons to learn.

  48. Same as everyone else, back here again until they learn.

  49. Lashana says:

    Wow thanks ive been wondering about this stuff like forever!

  50. Rocky says:

    For years I bought into the Christianity story. Much longer than I’d like to admit. When one finally realizes that man kind made all religions, then and only then does one feel true freedom. My family chose my religious beliefs for me, and I’m sure that is the case with most people. I don’t hold any grudge against family members for doing that. They were only doing what was done for them.

    There may indeed be a creator, supreme power, or “something” but you won’t find this “something” in any book. My grandchildren will not have to go through what I went through. When they reach the age of reason, I will be happy to address these issues with them. By the way, I highly recommend Thomas Paine’s book written in the late 1700’s (I think) titled The Age Of Reason.

    Of course Paine was a deist, and believed in God, just not the bible god. It’s a very good read.

  51. kostah says:

    hummmmm came on y’ll everybody is trying to make believe on what they believe and that’s that …….

  52. Joe says:

    Religions aside…the fact that some stories have remained constant through the centuries (regardless of how people may have used them for ulterior motives), may still have significant import to us. I’m curious as to the purpose of the previous crucifixions of the previous ‘gods’ before Christ. You don’t have to succumb to the trappings of a religion to relate to a God who may use stories as one of the avenues to communicate Truth to us.
    Hopefully we’re not throwing the Baby out with the bathwater, or poo pooing religion as an excuse to disregard God…or something like that…though that’s certainly ‘your’ choice.

  53. I wasn’t aware god uses or told stories to communicate to us. Yes, men (and women) have used stories about god to make points. The real question, stories aside, is does God exist, or has that been made up by man?

  54. Joe says:

    Yeah, that’s a deeper question, huh!? ; )
    I don’t think we can scientifically or logically prove God’s existence, or even prove if we made Him up or not. Though, if we did make Him up, who’s to say that impulse was not put in us by Him. Lol.
    If He ‘could’ be proven, we would ‘have’ to believe…then would we not be compelled (whether we wanted to or not) to do His bidding?
    If God’s existence cannot be proven intellectually, is that, then, reason enough to not seek Him through other means?

    Maybe he wants to be related to another way. Instead of being ‘proven’ like some laboratory experiment; how about ‘known‘, like a friend or lover? Of course, we’d be dealing with the heart primarily and not the brain, initially.

    Not that we negate the use of our minds…it’s just not the first organ to use in order to know God.
    If we move, (first) from our heart, conscience, intuition, spirit and communion; and, there, listen for His word to us… then (secondly) we can use our minds to understand what we‘ve heard from that deepest part of ourselves, and mentally encourage our wills to believe and (finally) then, physically act or move on those leadings.

    If He cannot be proven one way or another to exist, don’t we have to allow a portion (no matter how big or small) of our being, for the possibility of His existence? How much of our being we allow to believe this possibility, He has graciously left for us to decide. This way (if we so choose), He lets us love Him as much as we desire. Like, somehow, He will not push Himself on us to believe, as He would have been doing, were we mentally able to prove His existence. Love must be freely given…and accepted, on both sides.

  55. He will not push us to believe? See Matthew:

    Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” 10:34-36
    Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. 11:20-24
    “He that is not with me is against me.” 12:30

  56. JohnnyF* says:


    Beliefs make a difference in how people act and what they try to enforce upon others… Like christianity’s persecution of homosexuals in the US (right now). Or how christians are trying to rewrite american history, ignorantly thinking the worlds first SECULAR state was based on ‘christian values’. How they fight against science in education. How christians in Africa burn witches. This is proof enough it’s evil. How about the Jews view about their right to palestine? How orthodox jews spit on small girls who proclaim their independence? How they occupy land and build communities on them proclaiming they are ‘gods chosen people’. It proves their religion is evil. And of course the muslim, no question they are doing a pretty good job of proving that too, about Islam. Jailing women who gets raped? Hanging homosexuals? Marrying 8 year olds and raping them to death on their wedding night. Fighting against education. Anyone know what ‘Boko Haram’ means..?

    Abrahamic religions are EVIL. There is no LOVE here. It’s indoctrination and it leads to people forcing their views based upon delusional beliefs upon others. Threatening that unbelief will make you burn in hell.

    But the thing is, If you believe bad people are going to hell, I’ll tell you right no. That’s you, christians, muslims, jews… You are the ‘bad people’. Because your religion made you so.

  57. Rocky says:

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

  58. Ashley says:

    Tells one part of the story, and thanks for that. But there are many parts to be told. Here’s one from a much earlier period of Roman history (from Jonathan I. Israel’s “Radical Enlightenment,” 2001, Oxford University Press, pp 701-703)

    ‘ A notable feature of the “Traité des Trois Imposteurs,” the “Symbolum Sapientiae”, and other radical clandestine texts from the two main groups is the denunciation of political oppression and despotism as the universal ally and concomitant of revealed religion and “superstition.” The Traité , like the “Sympbolum Sapientiae,” is indeed a highly political as well as a philosophical work. Likewise, other clandestine texts stress the link between superstitious faith and tyranny and the need to oppose despotism if men are to be free.

    ‘The short new chapter Levier inserted into the text of the Traité (Chapter VI in the edition of 1719) undertakes to consider how the legendary Numa Pompilius managed, by stealth and craft, to establish the principle of monarchy among the Romans when they began to tire of
    consultative rule by the senate. Numa grasped that the most effective way to establish absolute authority over “hommes ignorans, grossiers et superstitieux”, such as Rome’s early inhabitants, was to inspire in them “la plus grande crainte des dieux” as is possible. To succeed, however, Numa perceived that some gross fiction or “miracle” was needed in order completely to overawe the ignorant and credulous Roman mind. It proved easy work to convince a people already irredeemably addicted to divination and oracles that the tyrannical laws and institutions to which he obliged them to submit had been dictated to him from “Heaven.” As the centuries passed, adds Levier, Roman credulity increased more and more, hand in hand with the growth of political oppression, until finally their minds were so shrouded by credulous superstition that the notion of a virgin birth encompassed “rien d’incroyable pour des gens qui admettoientt, comme des veritez divinement réveleés, une infinté de choses plus absurdes et plus contradictories.”

    ‘This inserted chapter exemplifies the technique also regularly used in other clandestine texts, of illustrating radical philosophical ideas, with vivid historical exempla. The idea that revealed religion is essentially a political device goes back to Machiavelli and is elaborated by Spinoza. The argument that the ancient oracles were essentially a web of priestly fraud reach back to Van Dale and Fontenelle. But the story of Numa Pompilius dramatizes the message embedded in such ideas, showing how revelations and miracles could be used by a ruler, in alliance with a priestly class, to crush human liberty. “Révélation et prophéties” had been constantly employed over the ages, holds the Traité , alternately to astonish, terrify, and elate the people and by this means manipulate them for hidden political purposes.

    ‘The inevitable result is oppression and despotism. Nor can one achieve political liberty without resolving to “combattre la superstition” and champion “la pure vérité”, philosophy being an indispensable accoutrement of emancipation, without which one can not be an “esprit libre.” Here, as in other respects, the “Symbolum Sapientiae” approaches the Traité in militancy. With equally relentless zeal the Symbolum insists that “religion and superstition indeed are by nature entirely apt for forcing the common people under the yoke and keeping them in labour, subjection, and obedience”. The more oppressive a system of government, argues this text, the more men are corrupted and depraved by error and superstition. Indeed, political dominance and usurpation is the sole and unique source of all error and superstition.


    ‘The Radical Enlightenment, as has been noted, entertained a curiously schizoid view of Islam and Mohammed. On the one hand, from the late seventeenth century and culminating in Boulainvilliers’ “Vie de Mohamed” (“Londres”, 1730) …. Islam is viewed positively, even enthusiastically as a purified form of revealed religion, stripped of the many imperfections of Judaism and Christianity and hence reassuringly akin to deism. On the other hand, Islam is more often regarded with hostility and contempt as a primitive, grossly superstitious religion like Judaism and Christianity, and one no less, or still more, adapted to promoting despotism. For his part, d’Argens, in his various works, seems alternately to reflect both attitudes.

    ‘However, the main (i.e. Spinozistic) bloc of clandestine manuscript philosophical literature, despite Boulainvilliers’ considerable influence, clearly shares the latter attitude. Spinoza himself, in his letters, accounts Mohammed a “deceiver” and Islam even better equipped than the Roman Catholic Church to “mislead the common people and keep men’s minds in its grip”, and consequently the most unified and coherent of all revealed religions. D’Argens, in his “Lettres juives,” describing the alleged cultural desolation and ignorance prevailing in Algiers and Tunis, compares government of the Barbary states to that of Rome under Caligula, Nero, and Diocletian and speaks of the prejudice that the Muslims “avaient portés aux sciences et aux beauxarts.” It is this contemptuous attitude to Islam, invariably linking superstition with despotism and the enslaving of the human spirit, that is chiefly echoed in the clandestine manuscripts. The “Symbolum Sapientiae” unhesitatingly dismisses the Koran as no less absurd and contradictory than the Old and New Testaments. According to the Traité , Mohammed was in no way less adroit in fabricating revelations, visions, and miracles, and manipulating the passions of the people, than Moses or Jesus.’

  59. rex berry says:

    Excellent post and helps me in my research. Gee isn’t it amazing how folks of curiosity seem to travel similar paths. My research has come to pretty much the same conclusions. I do have two questions I hope folks can help me with. First Palestine and Philistine are the same word. There is no letter P in the Arabic alphabet, it is a backwards P with a dot over it making the F or Ph sound. I am convinced that Palestine is a westernized bastardization of the word and is used as an argument for the “seniority” of Israel in the region. Can anyone help me with the first date of when the word Palestine with the P was used? 2. The apostles do not appear in the writings of Josephus or any of the to-date translated Dead Sea Scrolls. The apostles and Acts first appearance that I can find are in the works of Eusebius about 325 or so with the Nicean Council. Does anyone have any information of when they first appeared between 80ce and 325 ce?

  60. Rocky says:

    Rex, you might try the following website. Hope it helps you in your research.

  61. Dom Staltare says:

    yep your right they are all made up stories who cares the meaning of life ” You laugh you cry you live you die ” Nothing else !!!!!!!!!!!!

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  63. Abigail says:

    I am sorry I called you a liar.

    I was really upset about what you said concerning Jesus. I know you do not believe in him but I do, so for my sake, can you forgive me?

    I was wrong to call you names, and I have not been able to concentrate on anything since.

  64. charles r hale says:

    My experience of christians suggests a cult. Very few have read the whole bible, only parts they’re urged to learn. They really don’t have a personal relationship with their deity. The warm fuzzy feelings they get from prayer and worship just prove they have feelings. My dog has feelings but doesn’t try to construct a belief system from them. They get it all from their preacher, a charismatic leader that really defines a cult operation. They’re urged to only marry christians so that their faith isn’t tested as such tests tend to prove fatal to faith. The shame is that they drag their children into this cult with them.

  65. Zee says:

    I believe in Jesus. My relationship with the Creator of Heaven and earth isn’t based on fuzzy feelings at all. It’s based on sight…and faith. Sight because the function of the human body alone is mind boggling. The beauty and intricacy of nature tell that there is a God. A picture of the earth suspended in space, surrounded by a fraction of what we understand blows my mind. By faith because He comforts me. Protects me; and I can write a book about my many personal encounters with the Lover of my life and soul. I must agree with one thing with you though, and that is there are a lot of imposters out there who only feed on the spiritual needs of others. The true God is Perfect Love. His ways are high. Following Him is a high calling. It’s rethinking life. Instead of amassing riches for yourself, you do it for others. It’s about forgiveness. Mercy. Patience. This is who God is and more. Unfortunately, very few understand and live this. in fact, Jesus said that people will believe in Him if we love one another. There is a force against this. Instead of focusing on God as who people think He is, why not focus on what He is. If everyone would exhibit real love in this world, we would live in a paradise, but it is not so. There is an enemy. Hatred, selfishness…the list goes on. It’s evident. God is real and He is LOVE.

  66. Pete says:

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  68. Jaysin says:

    oh boy! This was an awesome post!!! The mighty 10% of the world’s population knows the real truth!!

  69. Domenic Staltare says:

    There are probably over two million theories out there that disclaim God and creation but even science can only start at the BIG BANG but absolutely nothing before that and as to why it happened and as to who/what triggered it off. So why did it BIG BANG ? Was nothing something ?
    It is easy to disclaim anything but if you were not there how do you know it ACTUALLY happened( all that was written in history books is 100% true). Only modern history is more acuratey documented.The rest is questionable.Something must of kicked it all off and maybe just maybe it was a superior being or maybe even a Christ ? Everyone is entitled to there beliefs and as you know there is always two sides to the story and the argument will never be resolved !!!!!!!

  70. I believe Lawrence Krauss means no matter (the Universe from Nothing-no matter) before the Big Bang. There was a lot of energy, much too much, and it was an unstable situation. So the energy exploded, and Boom!,that was the big bang.

  71. Domenic Staltare says:

    But even nothing has to come from somehing or somewhere. Who/what put that little atom there to explode ? That is why it is all about believing what you believe and no one can deter you from your beliefs either religious or scientific.

  72. Energy has no mass. Radiation has no mass. Light has no mass. So Energy can exist before matter came.

  73. olcharlie says:

    Why does there have to be a beginning? Perhaps the energy that was present at the time of the bang was always there. Perhaps we’re just participating in the latest of big bangs that have been going on through infinite time. It’s a Hindu notion, and i imagine it fits with the quantum foam theory. Living things as we understand them have beginnings and ends, birth and death, so we assume the universe works the same way. We’re an arrogant species who imagine a god who’s just like us, hates our enemies but approves of our friends, jealous, wrathful, able to love, etc.

  74. Domenic Staltare says:

    Your missing the point. Who/what put the matter there why did exist.There is no reason for the matter to be there if it were not to start something in fact to begin life !!!!!! Created by the almighty creator himself , Jesus Christ. Yes Jesus started this all from nothing before nothing for us.

  75. good post. However, we reincarnate. We don’t just die. Don’t Hindus also believe in Reincarnation?
    The Catholic Church use to.

  76. Jimmy says:

    This is a very interesting post. I myself am and have been a catholic my whole life, but unlike some Catholics I refuse to blindly beleive in something without having a firm understanding of it. It’s very possible that Jesus did not exist (although they claim to have found the shroud of Turin as physical evidence), but nonetheless, the bible teaches us to be moral people, whether any of it ACTUALLY happened or not. Many of the writings in the bible are parables anyways which are made up stories to teach a lesson or convey a message. 1/6th of the world’s population are Christians, so when people blame Christianity for the molestation of children and corrupt church officials, it is just stupidity. There are going to be stupid people wherever you look, no matter what race, religion, ancestry or whatever.

    On a different note, here’s some topic for discussion. It was found that everyone has a part of their brain used specifically for spirituality and ‘connecting’ with a higher being. So if god isn’t real, what’s the point of that part of our brain? If everything was a chance happening and we are all products of the cosmos and evolution, why the hell would we have that part of our brain? It just doesn’t make sense to me.

    So in conclusion, even if the bible is made up, it is still a powerful set of moral lessons and guidelines to live by that could make the world a better place if people didn’t misunderstand it constantly.

  77. charles r hale says:

    There is a part of the brain that deals with abstract thought. Religion qualifies, as does language and mathematics, etc. Believe what you want, just quit trying to justify it with misused science. If god is real and religion is so true, why can’t religious people agree on the zillion points of doctrine they’ve killed each other over throughout history?

  78. Domenic Staltare says:

    Finally, someone that understands and has a brain !!!! One thing i will add is that some say that religions envokes violence and war but just imagine if there were no religions we would be still like savages with everyone killing and trying to extinguish the other. Yes you say that still happens now but there would be no one to try and stop it because no one would know grace and believe you me mankind would of been wiped out by now. I say Christianity would be perfect if it were not for Christians and there would be no good if there were no evil. So believe if you want, at least Christianity has given us a choice.

  79. There is another choice: Secular Humanism:
    The Code for Global Ethics
    Posted on August 29, 2011 by beyondallreligion (still curently contained is
    For Balance Purposes, while we are on the subject of religions: The Old Testament Bible is not peaceful. The Koran is not peaceful. The Buddhists in Tibet were not peaceful. The Mormons: “Cut their Throats”-said Brigham Young.

    A rabbi said that “a million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” I prefer the THE TEN PRINCIPLES FOR A GLOBAL RATIONAL HUMANISM

    Amazon: Ten Commandments For A Global Humanism:


    1. DIGNITY: Proclaim the natural dignity and inherent worth of all human beings.

    2. RESPECT: Respect the life and property of others.

    3. TOLERANCE: Be tolerant of others’ beliefs and lifestyles.

    4. SHARING: Share with those who are less fortunate and assist those who are in need of help.

    5. NO DOMINATION: Do not dominate through lies or otherwise.

    6. NO SUPERSTITION: Rely on reason, logic, and science to understand the Universe and to solve life’s problems.

    7. CONSERVATION: Conserve and improve the Earth’s natural environment.

    8. NO WAR: Resolve differences and conflicts without resorting to war or violence.

    9. DEMOCRACY: Rely on political and economic democracy to organize human affairs.

    10. EDUCATION: Develop one’s intelligence and talents through education and effort.

    From The Code for Global Ethics, Ten Humanist Principles by Rodrigue Tremblay, with Preface by Paul Kurtz. Published 2010 by Prometheus Books. (ISBN: 978-1-61614-172-1)

  80. charles r hale says:

    The reformation was a blood bath of lutherans and calvinists slaughtering each other and catholics. I’d say we’ve evolved into a somewhat civilized condition in spite of religion. Religion is nothing more than a way of ordering and dominating a herd. This is about pack/herd instinct. To evolve into reasoning beings we really need to shed that stuff. Religion is a holding us back.

  81. Larry says:

    I too vote for secular humanism over any and all religions. Good grief, we’d hardly be like savages without religion. It’s religion that drives the crazies. It was religion that brought us the dark ages! It will be religion and it’s unreasonable, absurd, and illogical, teachings that brings an end to the human race.

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  83. Steve Martin says:

    What would christians be wearing around their neck if Jesus had been hanged?

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  89. wow! this is very shocking exposure against christianity that it is an assemblage of pagan docrines atributing divinity to jesus which he never claimed as the holy quran rightly stated. but the irony is that the christian evangelists instead of addressing this problem and accept quranic solusion, they concocted and spread lie that islam originated from moon-god worship called allah a chief idol being worshiped by pagan arabs before islam. it was later discovered that pagan arabs did not even have sytem of worship called moon-god. the chief idol of the pagan arabs was called hubal not allah and hubal was never described as moon-god. the symbol of crescent relied upon by these evangelist liars was used never during the time of prophet muhammad and later generation only used it to represent the start of the month of fasting or id celebrations. it should be noted that pagan arabs erected idols as represation of daughters of almighty allah as satan made them to change monotheist religion of their forefathers abraham and ishmael. the pagan arab belief system is therefore similar to present christianity where jesus is worshiped as son of god

  90. Michael Barnett says:

    I think religion is part of a mechanism. The first thing is to develop a structure or educational system that increases the amount of time people spend recognising god. So develop something like the new and old testaments. To study these books will not only take you many hours, but many years. This study in turn frees you from god, in turn again this makes you more dependent on like minded or culture and very confrontational and suspicious of that outside your group.

    So your religion is the seed to creating a typically but not always violent, empire.
    And we currently have a jewish empire along side a christian empire, and a muslim empire. Nothing unnerves us more than a religious based empire.

    If the Russians want to get a big time empire, like the soviet union they need to create a religion. Otherwise they remain small fry, compared to christians, jews and muslims.

    China is buying up large swathes of land, but unless they too find a religion, what they own will never be considered a chinese empire.

  91. Jim says:

    I’m 54 and have let religion get me to the point of mental anguish. My father is like a lot of people who believe their faith is exclusively true and real. But it was very overbearing and torture for a shy child to have to talk to strangers on Saturday mornings about something that they weren’t that knowledgeable about.
    When I became older, I visited many faiths, asked a lot of questions. But there was never any satisfying my wanting to know more about the Bible and how do you explain the trinity? What happened with me was, that I learned to block out all other beliefs and opinions and do a honest evaluation of what my heart and mind perceived. I don’t know wether there is or isn’t a God…based on human information. I can understand anyone disbelieving God based on our experiences in life. And so much hypocrisy, hate, and evil that goes on among “Christians”

    But for me personally, in my heart and mind, I believe and know there is an Almighty God. Not because of my father or any other persons opinion. If Jesus Christ had not lived and had not been crucified, I would not know this. Man’s wisdom, wether it is truth or man made truth, cannot enable us to understand things that are spiritual. Humbleness is one thing that is a learning aid in this area. And us humans look at humbleness as nothing to do with knowledge of history, the world, andGod not existing. Humbly open your mind and heart one time in the subject of God.

  92. Nice sermon Jim, and much shorter than the bible. God intervenes, and he usually tells people about himself so Jesus is by no means necessary to be aware of God, the remotest tribe will have someone in it, that God has intervened.

    On another level, to recognise god is to some extent nullify that which everything came from, or to rest from that which everything came from, to rest or to gain some degree of freedom from.

    Freedom from God, I suspect makes you more dependent on like minded people and culture, and family, but inturn I also suspect makes you more distrusting, aggressive, negative to those outside your perceived family or culture.

    Recognising God, is not a win win scenario. It can also be a seed to the destruction of anything deemed to lie outside that persons culture. This can lead to violence and the downfall of nations that think embracing religion is a win win concept.

  93. Truth Be Told says:


    Interesting post about something that I’ve believed for a long time. However, something else that I’ve been researching lately begs the question: “Why stop at Christianity?”

    If one follows history back to 3000 and 4000 BCE, why not get to the bottom of the whole Abrahamic myth?

    I cannot believe that in all my years, the truth had been staring me right in the face and I only awoke to it recently:

    Brahma – Sarasvati (Hinduism)
    Abraham – Sara(i) (Judaism)

    Since all of theism is/are anchored in being ‘Abrahamic faiths’, it’s time to pull the rug out from underneath and the wool away from the eyes once and for all.

    By reading this article, readers here will see that Judaism’s foundations are the least bit original:

    The Abraham myth is the snake’s head of theism. Showing that the roots of the Abrahamic faiths are simply borrowed stories gathered and edited by humans without any ‘divine’ influence, reveals that they are nothing but a collection of ancient stories and that the god of which they speak is nothing but a mere figment of the imagination.

    So many people have died in vain over ridiculous ‘holy wars’. Many people live in fear because of the propagation of these harmful dogmas.

    When ‘believers’ out there realize the origin of what they believe/worship is based on altered Hindu myths, perhaps humankind can breathe a sigh of relief and move another step closer to realizing peace – a peace made possible by exposing the lies of theism; a belief system which has harmed mankind more than is imaginable.


  94. True Comment says:

    The ‘TRUTH’ is beyond all religions. Religions is made by ‘MAN’. God is a universal Truth. Judaism is a nine family assembly, Buddhism is organized by King Ashoka, Christianity is implemented by Rome after they saw the success of Buddhism, Islam is also meant for the same purpose of money and power. Hinduism is implemented by the British Government in India for the accountability and other crooked business men of India. Rama, Krishna,Ravana or Kansa was not Hindus and even the disappeared folks of Sindh riverbank. So far no religion has been successful in establishing peace. I and You live in the same world. What you experience generally is the same I experience. Please teach the fact to your children also. Let them be more free humans than guided slaves.

  95. Eileen says:

    Which bible would you recommend that has not been altered or forged . Thanks

  96. None-they are all based upon a bedrock of lies. The most non-violent is Buddhism, but it is a philosophy. I am reading the Baghavagita. Gandhi read it every day.

  97. Father_Erik says:

    You would have to learn Koine Greek and read the original manuscripts for yourself. Anything less and you must rely upon translations. And all translations, of modern or ancient texts, requires the translator to make decisions.

    Try to be perfectly literal in the translation? Then you get some strange sentences, and may even miss the actual meaning; plus not everything *has* a literal translation between languages.

    Try instead to translate for meaning? Now the translator has to parse the original text to carry what they understand to be the best meaning into the target language.

    So there’s no simple answer. That said, my first choice is the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV). But I’d guess I have about a dozen versions on my shelf. As noted above, which is the “best” translation rather depends upon your needs. The web site offers a lot of versions online, so you can see the comparisons yourself.

    A good study bible or two is useful, as is a good Greek lexicon. And if you are interested in what Jesus said, or didn’t say, a great reference is “The Five Gospels” by the Jesus Seminar.

    And all *that* said, your own level of consciousness has an even great impact upon what you read than the text itself. “Stages of Faith” and “Putting on the Mind of Christ” are two good books to get started down that path of exploration. I consider these critical reading for those who wish to be well informed.

    Context, context, context. Including your own spiritual & psychological stage of development, and bias 😉

  98. GodsNotDeadHe'sSurelyAlive! says:

    so what religion are you saying is the right one?

  99. no religion is the right one. Spirituality is fine. Buddhism is a good philosophy, but it is not a religion.
    Best Wishes

  100. Michael Berenzweig says:

    This is quite revealing, although, I have read, at least some of these things in other places. BUT, I would suggest the reading of THE LOST RELIGION OF JESUS by Keith Akers, THE FORGOTTEN BEGINNINGS OF CREATION AND CHRISTIANITY by Carl Anders Skriver, THE VEGETARIANISM OFJESUS CHRIST by Charles P Vaclavik, FOOD FOR THE GODS by Rynn Berry, DISCIPLES by Keith Akers, JAMES, THE BROTHER OF JESUS by Robert Eisenman. These books concur with much of what was presented here. But they are not totally negating, as this material seems to be. The common thread of AHIMSA, consistent with an ecological, compassionate, ethically,socially sound herbivorous, organic Vegetarian, Vegan diet, eschewing Animal agriculture, ALL foods derived from our sister and brother Animals, is a common theme, from Plato, Socrates, Einstein, the Buddha, etc., making this material more than plausible, in connection with what may very well have been original Christianity,Judaism, Islam..

  101. La Ruegarue says:

    Food for thought! But, how do I know it’s true or accurate? Were can i go for further research?

  102. Father_Erik says:

    The short answer is that is a vast oversimplification, with some truth and some misrepresentation. But the long answer requires you to invest a fair amount of time educating yourself. That’s what I suggest.

    Read university level text books. These are well researched and peer reviewed by people who have spent many years, decades in many cases, working in their respective fields. Do not assume just any tripe you read on the Internet is true. Verify for yourself.

    One suggested starting point is the college textbook “The New Testament” by Prof. Bart Ehrman. Highly respected scholar, and his textbook is used in many, if not the majority, of seminaries across the United States.

    Other highly qualified professors in the field of religious studies that immediately leap to mind are Marcus Borg, and Ron Miller (both recently deceased), Luke Timothy Johnson, Phillip Cary, Dale B. Martin, Christine Hayes, and Shaye J. D. Cohen.

    There’s 200 years of good, modern scholarship to draw upon. Hundreds of well researched, reliable, peer reviewed texts to read. I suggest taking in multiple views and from a wide range of backgrounds. In time you’ll find you have your answer.

  103. mujuni says:

    what do you guys say of atheists who have seen Yeshua the messiah and converted?

  104. I haven’t heard of one You used plura. can you name a couple for me?

  105. I haven’t heard of one. You used plural. Please name two.

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  107. Father_Erik says:

    The question was asked, to name atheists who have converted to Christianity as a result of visionary encounters with Jesus. A quick search of the Internet provides some examples… some as a result of mystical experiences which are visual encounters, some auditory, some for other reasons.

    The most famous conversions I can think of are Paul and Augustine. Paul was not an atheist however, he was a very religious Jew. Augustine on the other hand was a pagan and at least agnostic, if not atheist (one should spend time with his writings, and draw their own conclusions as to which category to place Augustine prior to his conversion – which came as the result of a profound auditory encounter).

    This link offers a number of what the author believes to be conversions from atheism:

    This link offers a first-person account of conversion from atheism to Christianity, although it doesn’t appear to be a result of a visionary encounter:

    And good ol’ Wiki offers a list of notable conversions to Christianity:

    Personally, I believe the larger question is one of Stages of Faith, or developmental spirituality. This need not be Christian, but if Christianity is the religious/spiritual path that offers the symbols one finds congruent with deepening spirituality, then it is the proper choice for that person (as it is in my case).

    But one must always bear in mind there are various flavors of Christianity. Some preach hell fire and hate. Others preach Theosis and embodying the Mind of Christ, so as to move toward personal and communal transformation which may ultimately bring about the Kingdom right here on earth (which is what Jesus spoke about; stated most beautifully and mystically in the Gospel of John, even though the odds are few if any of the words put upon the lips of Jesus were literally spoken by him).

    The bottom line, is to find a faith or religion which allows one to mature and grow in one’s spirituality. Typically we begin with tribal belief structures (conveniently, God loves what we love, and God hates what we hate). But all great mystics speak of another God, of that which is transcendent, and yet immanent in our lives, drawing us toward Unity Consciousness.

    Jesus too certainly spoke of this. All the Law and Prophets may be summed up in a single word: Love. Love of God, and love of others, and love of self (in a holistic manner, not egotistically, nor self-serving, but rather to serve others).

    Do not fall into the trap of thinking that God is a Christian, or a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or a Jew. God is God, and ultimately beyond all human comprehension. We may only apprehend what we may of God; but we are severely limited in the depths of our apprehensions.

    There is only one God. If your path toward God promotes peace, compassion, and love, you are serving the one God. So visit the sick. Feed the hungry. Defend the defenseless. Embody what you may of God, by allowing the love of God to flow into you, through you, into the world, to those you meet.

    There is only one God, the God of Peace, Compassion, and Love. Live this, and God dwells with (and within) you.

  108. whuff says:

    I would be interested in your evidence that Paul was a very religious Jew. The only evidence we have of Paul points to his being a Gnostic Christian, who probably followed the Mystery of Joshua. He seems to have followed rituals of Isis and Serapis, also, which is characteristic of members of Mystery religions at that time: the inner teachings were the same, so the outer rituals were interchangeable.

    Paul’s attitude to the Jews is more scornful, though otherwise similar, to those attributed to Jesus: they both dismissed rules that obstructed spiritual development.

    Augustine was a Manichean and Platonist, so clearly Gnostic in his thinking, though he didn’t read Greek. Perhaps he joined sides with Rome as both they and he opposed the Celtic Christianity of Pelagius, and he could read Latin.

  109. I saw plenty of agnostics who converted, and other religious believers converting to Catholicism, but not one atheist who converted because of a vision of Jesus. I believe even Paul didn’t actually see a physical Jesus vision.
    I found one interesting reference: Claude McKay – Bisexual Jamaican poet who went from Communist-leaning atheist to an active Catholic Christian after a stroke, but it wasn’t because of a vision of Jesus.

  110. Even though I don’t go to church, I still read the bible!

  111. that’s why all prophecies fulfilled?

    Many were predicted after the event supposedly already occurred .

  113. Father_Erik says:

    Typically, “prophecies” are fulfilled because the text was written well after the historical events had taken place. It is a common motif all throughout both the Jewish bible and the Christian New Testament. Problem solved 😉

    This isn’t to say the sacred texts are therefore without value however. But it is to say that a one-dimensional, literal interpretation is usually missing a great deal, or quickly leads to misinterpretation (and in the worse cases, violence).

  114. S says:

    What a wealth of information – especially the link to ‘The Forged Origins of the New Testament’.

    A little dose of reality never hurt anyone and I will gladly point Xtian fanatics to this link so they can save themselves the embarrassment (whoops, too late) of expelling so much unnecessary – and ridiculous – hot air.

  115. Reblogged this on HINDUISM AND SANATAN DHARMA and commented:
    Short history of Christianity.

  116. Magnum Mac says:

    Thank you for all this really really useful information! It came at a time when I really needed to read something like this to help me get back on track and on my way to a new found belief! After a gruesome experience with the Catholic Church recently I really needed to sit down take some time off and start doing some research! I came on the web and started asking questions and I came upon this! You have made tremendous positive impact on my life today! Keep up the good work always!

  117. Greg hoey says:

    …the truth is that in 1990 I was intimidated even threatened by ones associated with the Jesuits, opus dei, powerful elements of American evangelist Christianity, including important members of the british- European aristocracy who were all concerned about the demise of the white man’s religion because of folks like Christopher hitchens and who basically wanted me or viewed me as the returned Christ. As stated they really tried to intimidate me by effectively saying that if I chose to defy such higher purpose in life my life as Greg Hoey would become very impoverished and dead-end. I was repulsed by their commands and indeed chose to defy! Let’s just say i have certainly paid the price. They have resolved to basically crucify me and any attempts I try in order to just have a reasonably well off lifestyle. I am constantly stalked by their media and servants of God as well am blacklisted from everything or anything that is likely to make me less than humble and less than jesus like if you know what i mean? Their Christianity is truly all about sufferance let me assure you. Such Cruel people they are and I have first hand experience I am sorry to say.

  118. giddalti says:

    You didn’t go back far enough in your research. Constantine started the “Universal Church” (aka The Catholic Church) in and around 320 CE. Christianity started about 300 years earlier. Constantine probably started the first cult Christian group, which has become the largest. The teachings of the Catholic religion are quite different than the teachings of Christ and his apostles. They throw in a few teachings from Christianity, and then a whole lot of other stuff.

  119. sandman666 says:

    They can’t seem to answer one simple question no matter how you phrase it…

    Why was doubting Thomas allowed the rare privilege to see the resurrected Jesus (so he would believe), but we are denied that same privilege?

    That bible is just a book of mere words making it basically a lot of hearsay evidence at best!

  120. Lotso says:

    Like the post, enjoyed the comments. Little here is new to me, I’ve long understood that the Christ myth predates “Jesus,” was thrown together in the 4th century, etc. But I have to say, the “best” part of this whole thread is (for the ironic hilarity):

    beyondallreligion says:
    May 30, 2014 at 9:13 am

    “good post. However, we reincarnate. We don’t just die.”

    ‘nuf said;)

  121. All this is irrelevant. But the fact that its irrelevant – is irrelevant! Thanks to this and much else, it looks increasingly like Christianity is toast. The competition thanks you.

  122. Neaty says:

    please research more on who ‘created ‘ Christianity and when it began before you make conclusions on the origin and development of Christianity. logic and critical thinking should prevail. As a scholar, your purpose of posting should be informative, not negating and trying to make converts. Thanks

  123. jub jub says:

    what a load of rubbish… If Constantine invented it why were so many christian killed from 63AD… and Constantine was born 272AD and lived 65 years. So logic tells me he sure invented it before he was born…. just 200+ years before.

  124. You must be talking about the persecution of Christians by Nero .
    Know the following about that: What about Tacitus, Roman Historian, who wrote about the persecutions of the early “Christians”?

    Regarding Tacitus, (Senator and Historian of the Roman Empire) these writings supporting the persecution were mysteriously found in the 15th century in the forests of Germany, following a reward offered by Leo X for old writings, and following a history of forgeries in Catholicism: In any case, there has been serious questions about the integrity of the famous passage about Christians.

    From: Gordon Stein denied the authenticity of this passage, arguing: (1) no corroborating evidence that Nero persecuted the Christians (2) there was not a multitude of Christians in Rome at that date (3) Christian was not a common term in the first century (4) Nero was indifferent to various religions in his city (5) Nero did not start the fire in Rome (6) Tacitus does not use the name Jesus (7) Tacitus assumes his readers know Pontius Pilate

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  126. John Cochran says:

    Several observations here from various contributors, …many True Believers hold dear the idea that their “faith” (the research of the ignorant) is held strong by looking at physicists’ failure to identify exactly how the universe was formed in the beginning. Although there are several feasible theories, it is difficult to reconstruct such a colossal event that occurred 14 billion years ago. They ridicule science because of this perceived failure and use it to strengthen their beliefs. Yet, they have no problem accepting the fact that their alleged God created himself from nothing! And none of them would venture an attempt to explain how that might be possible. “He’s God. He can do anything.” So they have a ready out and explanation for any and all problems with their theology. God can do anything. And also, he works in mysterious ways. Don’t even dare to try and figure out his mind. And to me, it is absolutely incredulous that the majority of U.S. people still hold to the beliefs that have been explained many times in this post to be absolute farce. It is unbelievable how the Christian faithful are so immersed with this forgery here in the Bible Belt. It would be excusable in the 14th Century, but how can Darwin’s theory (they absolutely hate Darwin) be so ignored? I hate conspiracy theories but there must be government inclusion into the ignorance of our citizenry. It is so pervasive that with a little help from the likes of the Texas legislature and hordes of proselytizing teachers the ignorance seems to take on a life of its own. It is so unfortunate that the strengthening core of American ignorance comes from our educational system.

  127. says:

    This is just what I needed. Thanks!hope all religious freak will read this..

  128. dali says:

    Everyone should know about these historic facts, also study Lobsang Rampa, and see UFO Billy Meier case on facebook …

  129. Nemo says:

    Sorry, no “Mithra crucified”. Anyway, christianism is all bunk.

  130. dali says:

    religion is a great tool for the elite to start all wars for profit !

  131. Elle says:

    Funny how God cannot exist outside of Christianity to Christians. I believe in a creator. But I also know Christianity is the most dangerous of all religions. If you do not share their beliefs they write you off as being ungodly. Some of the worst people I’ve met in my life have been Christians. And only a fool would believe one man created everything in existence.

  132. felix says:

    i hate christianity fake people

  133. ulomoh says:

    “Worldwide, all gods have something in common, they owe their origin from a locally fabricated belief in God, so all gods are created in the image and likeness. So the one deity, which one carries in his imagination, is no different or better than the deity of another fellow human being?

    Mankind worship gods and proof of their imaginary ‘existence’ can only be projected by the imagination. Depending on place of birth one is faced as a child with the local habits, customs and rituals. The convictions that a man running around since childhood, are based on “imitation knowledge and imagination,” not on facts and circumstances.

    So everything depends on the place of birth regardless of where in the world, but the biggest problem is that the majority of mankind does not want to know the truth. Who has no idea what “awakening” means experiencing his world from a dream consciousness, in which fantasies, dreams and imagination, the boss is about the mind.

    It is a fact that sleep is the friend of the dead. So it is no coincidence that a legion primitive religions advise their supporters drugs, in order to keep the sleeping man capitulated. In some cultures, dances are initiated to induce trances, and derived from this makes the modern world today eagerly using hypnosis.

    Calling people to reflect and to see the reality will not always understood. On the other hand it is a fact that those who live in the assumption to approach life with both feet, there would normally not think that realism can be interpreted in many ways. And those who once nested in the mindset of the church, is often not convincing anymore, because a believer of any church believes that the church is always right and then follow the orders of the devine and Biblical drivel.

    And if everything goes according to plan, there is no reason to complain, but when the need is to men, then stumbles the majority of the faithfull usually on her own interpretations of God’s existence. And the god of one people was always truer and better than the gods of all other nations. No wonder that there are now more than thousands of religions and sects, where each group lives under the delusion that it has to do with the True God, or True Gods.

    In general, no one likes to hear that his or her choice is not the right, humanly no one is entitled to impose his views on others. Finally, every believer knows it much better than his fellow believing brother or sister so that the original sin as a religious curse continues to exist in their ranks, which will continue to have continually influence the minds of the ignorant and conceited humanity …

    On behalf of the Vishnuh-Society

  134. Gideon Vincent says:

    Immidiately after I read this article I reseached more. I will like say that whatever is written in the Catholic Encyclopidia; it does not speak the opinion of all scholars on their behalf. This are some of what I researched on GOTQUESTIONS.COM on When was the Gospel Books Written?
    ” It is our contention that the evidence supports the earlier dating[ Of the time when the Books were written ]more than it does the later dating… Passing on oral traditions and teachings was commonplace in the Jewish culture of that day, and memorization was highly cultivated and practiced. Also, the fact that even at that time there would have been a considerable number of eyewitnesses around to dispute and discredit any false claims, and the fact that none of the “hard sayings” of Jesus were taken from the Gospel accounts, further supports their accuracy.”

  135. MrAllLivesMatter says:

    With God Help First!!! If you really want a change made, think Outside the box but think Inside the box!!!

    You have to listen then speak.

    You have to follow instructions then lead.

    And you have to pray then Act.

    Money is the tools to freedom of this world.

    But its a death box to nothing but pain off this world.

    Everything is diverse,

    Dreams are only temporarily but Good changes can last forever and ever y’all.

    Its time to Realize who the real enemy is.

    We our I worst enemy but im not talking about black on black crimes.

    Racism is just a distraction for whats about to happen they want to see us fight over color.

    Just like when our U.S. soldiers fought over just oil from another country.

    Most people that’s racist on internet are friendly in person to black people.

    or they run from black people so why see them as a threat

    They just bored.

    Face book is just like call of duty to them its a game to them because at the end of day.

    we all online expressing our feelings towards wrong and right

    So why get mad

    People not born to hate different colors they was taught to hate different colors by whites who wanted everlasting power for they own purpose and satisfaction or just out of hate.

    Its clear to see racism is full of followers and not leaders and some of there parents would disown them if they found out they dated out side they race, they force it on them at young ages and got beatings for not wanted to say racist things but they will never tell us cause they want to remain strong like us.

    So they cross over just to keep peace and they family.

    But little do they know its a full world out there who just want to be treated equally.

    Our Race Increasing everyday
    But still they being hired to build other Race dreams.

    So why are they mad at our race.

    Because we becoming out numbering, stronger and smarter too just like they started all this off.

    And they know at anytime we can hired them to build our dreams.

    Only If our people work together
    Because it took an forcefully organization to capture African people and make them slaves in America.

    We can do the same any day any time but its pointless.

    If we all have God in us
    That mean god is of one unity
    Different Colors are just separations
    From what god is about to do.

    People should be grateful different color people exists because different colors was a blessing from god.

    Think about how it would look if
    the grass was green, sky was green water was green, people was green, cars was green, house was green it would be boring and dull it would be hell to view all that green.

    So whites and black skin are no different we all bleed red because its what GOD invented cant show me one person who bleeds white that represent kkk so REALLY what are they standing for separation from what from them self`s

  136. olcharlie says:

    In buddhism, the real enemy is said to be ignorance. And belief is a be as ignorant as you want card.

  137. laski says:

    i have read all ur ssying but.i want to ask were r d dead going?

  138. Some of us but maybe not all will reincarnate . I know because I had a past life it checked out when I went to Alexandria Egypt, and I saw the same things that I saw in my past life regression. It seems true that our consciousness survives, no matter what

  139. The living one says:

    This is very informative, I’ve always felt like something wasn’t right with the bible’s new testament.. I stopped preaching because I realized there was not true power in teaching a false doctrine made by men..

  140. Katherine says:

    Why are people so gulible?!? Smh

  141. I can’t help but believe that this is a brainwashing theory put out to cause further damage to the collective unity of the people. In a world ruled by the ugly corruptions of Obama, Soros, & the Clintons, it is best to research the facts and arrive at your own conclusions. That being said, I don’t trust the Catholic church (I was raised Catholic), and truth be known, I don’t trust any “religion.” How dismal the pseudo-intellectuals life must be without the concrete knowledge and experience of the spiritual supernatural! What a world…I obviously do not subscribe to any form of religion…faith being of a personal connection with our Creator (no matter what name He goes by), but I do have to speak the truth. My personal and ongoing experiences with connecting with the Divine throughout my life and into my adulthood leave me with NO QUESTION that God DOES exist and that all of His ways are right — though in the mind of the human it may appear to be wholly illogical (Until it unfolds, that is). Even if the Bible were made up — I’m not saying it was or wasn’t; I have not as yet researched into all the details of your article yet, though I can unquestionably point out certain scripture that assuredly is contradictory or incomplete to say the least — all of this matters not. What is real is the undeniable Connection, the Relationship, which I sadly surmise most have not experienced reading many of your comments. This is not a fabrication or staunch Christianized response like someone relating to this article might expect. It is the Truth. You have freewill to decide what you will. My boyfriend was agnostic before I met him. He fell from a defect in faulty machinery to his death and he was dead for a total of 5 minutes. During this time he arose far above the cosmos and saw the Lord with his own eyes (of course there is much more to his story, but I am condensing to make clear to the point), and he came back a changed man. A better man. Everyone who knew him saw the change. He thought that it showed on him physically, though it was an inner change we are speaking of. There are an infinite amount of recollections along this same line, since time began…how do you account for this? Please don’t try to discount the facts as I am relaying them to you. It is nothing less than ridiculous and narcissistic faux-scientific nonsense to state that millions of people since time began just “made it up in their minds.” Don’t insult the intellect. Think and think deeply. You need to search yourself first. God exists, have no doubt. Don’t educate yourself with books written by people with an agenda, either from ancient times or today. Trust yourself enough to go inside your person, your heart, your essence, for answers. Trusting anything written by the common man, and allow me to reiterate this again: either now or eons ago, and basing their information to be fact, belies how the real truth is found. It all feels so “1984”-ish in it’s concept, and that alone is the best reason to dig deeper, and even deeper, to uncover what you will know to be the Truth. Don’t think it happens overnight; hardly anything with any real substance ever happens that way. But be persistent. The Connection is Everything. It is Real and Unquestionable. It will be different from others ideas, no doubt. But it will be the Truth and it will be Undeniable to YOU, and that is all that really matters, is it not? I hope everyone pursues it with passion and enough patience to find it.

  142. Mark James says:

    Thank you for this post. Very helpful. Spent 3 years at Bible College and into a pastor role. Still wasn’t happy and while and researching on my own I now believe what i was taught was a lie. I don’t want to spend of my living a fairy tale. What your post confirms my belief new found belief system. I’m a little upset that Bible College that fed me a one sided version of Christianity and not the whole historical version which I wasn’t taught. I have church despondent. I am still searching what I believe is true and right. Thank you for this post.

  143. Look out for a most enlightening book about the history of the Abrahamic religions and how Christianity was used primarily as a political tool. It filled in so many gaps for me, and was a pleasure to read as it was written by someone with a spiritual acceptance.

    Books written by critical scholars so often assume that opposing a religion makes you an atheist, which WH Uffington clearly is not. The book is called The Greatest Lie Ever Told. Look out for it on Kindle as sometimes it’s free for a week.

  144. Enaa says:

    Nice job on researching.
    I’ve always known this to be very true
    We are all sons and daughters of God.
    The creator doesn’t just have one son

  145. Most people are aware of them but Aron Ra from Texas (imagine that!) and Matt Dillahunty from Austin (who has his own atheist television show where they answer call ins) are supreme rationalists. They challenge True Believers and use common sense and reason as their primary (and only) weapons. Their posts on Youtube are invaluable for those who are trying to reason their way through the question “Did God create man, or did man create God?) Watch their posts and the answer is obvious.

  146. Wage Peace says:

    Catholic Answers Senior Apologist Jimmy Akin refutes the claim made by some Christian Fundamentalists that the Emperor Constantine founded the Catholic Church.

    What Did Early Christians Really Believe?

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    The Fathers Know Best: Your Essential Guide to the Teachings of the Early Church is a unique resource that introduces you to the teachings of the first Christians in a way no other work can. It is specially designed to make it easy for you to find the information you want and need. Amazing features in this fact-packed book include: * More than 900 quotations from the writings of the early Church Fathers, as well as from rare and important documents dating back to the dawn of Christian history. * Mini-biographies of nearly 100 Fathers, as well as descriptions of dozens of key early councils and writings. * A concise history of the dramatic spread of Christianity after Jesus told his disciples to evangelize all nations. * Special maps showing you where the Fathers lived, including many little-known and long-vanished locations. * A guide to nearly 30 ancient heresies, many of which have returned to haunt the modern world. * The Fathers’ teaching on nearly 50 topics, including modern hot-button issues like abortion, homosexuality, and divorce.

    This groundbreaking work presents the teachings of the early Christians in a way unlike any other book. It flings open the doors of the crucial but little-known age covering the birth of Christianity and the triumphant march of the gospel throughout the ancient world.

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  147. Julian Doyle says:

    Here is the irrefutable proof that Jesus was still alive after Pontius Pilate left Judea.

    Also why Jesus was NOT Christ – but there was a person called Chrestos who caused Claudius to expel the Jews from Rome in AD 49. And our earliest reference from Tacitus was NOT Christian’s but Chrestians. Gibbon (Rise and Fall) states that it was NOT the Christian’s who fanned the flames of Rome but another sect of Galileans. Read CRUCIFIXION’S A DODDLE –

  148. Indian says:

    What ever you may write about Christ, but your facts about Krishna (Chrishna of India (a mythical god that some claim was “crucified” around 1200 B.C.) is Absolutely WRONG.
    He died long after the Mahabharata War.
    He was never Crucified and he died in 3102 BC.
    All this predating of Indian History comes from the fact that nothing can be Older than Bible. So this misrepresentation of Indian and Hindu history. So Correct Your date and facts.

  149. Jeff says:

    Why does a part of me believe this? I’m supposed to be a Christian by faith. I believe the “Bible” says somewhere we must have child like faith; so why is this concept so difficult for me? I often ponder “am I being controlled by forces greater than I can fathom” or is everything just an illusion? Some of us have a “one shot-get it right” mentality, so am I right or wrong?

  150. are you saying I got the myth wrong, or are you saying Krishna was a real person, not a mythical person?

  151. Jeff, why worry about it?! Who cares what popes or Constatine did? You certainly don’t have to be childlike – God/ma nature gave you a brain so use it. Christ left us good example/lesson/rules even if the story is a myth or misidentified. Church help folks live longer/healthier/happier even if half is BS. Do what’s right for you.

  152. Justin says:

    I was raised Lutheran Christian and in 2007 read the New Living Translation Bible cover to cover and it literally scared the “Hell” out of me. I was then terrified that when some of my close friends and family died they would go to “Hell” and it freaked me out so bad that I started watching near death experiences (NDEs) and started with the Christian ones where they talk about going to Heaven and some that went to Hell. This freaked me out even more and I was that guy that was always trying to convince people to accept Jesus and save yourself. After I really dug into things over the last 10 years and started doing some very deep studying into NDEs, past life regressions, and the original Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek texts of the Bible, I was pleasantly awoken and no longer fear of “Hell” because quite simply, after doing the research, one must conclude it doesn’t exist.

    If you look at what modern Bibles have translated “Hell” from, there are 3 words: Sheol – which is the Hebrew word meaning the grave, or place where everyone goes when they die, Hades – which is the Greek word is the grave or place where everyone goes when they die, and Gehenna, which is a Greek word and was a valley where people burned their trash, and today is a park in Jerusalem. So none of these words actually meant a literal place of burning torment for all eternity and I was really relieved to learn this. Hell is a man-made word and used as a scare tactic by the church. So what are these NDEs where people go to Heaven or Hell? After studying hundreds of these from all over the world and different religions, I believe that these NDEs are your own reality creation and your consciousness experiencing what it wants/believes it deserves. The people having a hellish experience created their own “hell” but if you notice in these, when they call out to God or Jesus they are pulled from it. The same goes for other people around the world with other religions. One of the most famous ones is Mellen Thomas Benedict who died for more than an hour and a half of terminal brain cancer and is now healed:

    He saw Jesus, Buddah, Krishna, etc and The light “God” told him that you see what you believe or how you were brought up.

    So what happens when you die? After studying hundreds of these NDEs I then started studying reincarnation and past life regressions and tens of thousands of people from all around the world have had past life regressions to where they can recall their past lives and many of these they have verified past events such as one famous one where a lady who had sons in a previous life are now still alive and older than her in this lifetime of hers and she could tell you where the furniture used to be in the house they grew up in when she was their mother. I encourage you to do some research on past life regressions by Dr. Dr Ian Stevenson
    And also Deloros Cannon:

    The problem with religion is everyone is trying to “save” everyone from their own religion… and NONE of them are the “truth”. Jesus is not documented anywhere actually and Christianity is a copycat religion.

    … Think about this… Earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is 14 billion years old. The odds that you and I and everyone else is living their 1 shot, 1 chance 75 avg year life is basically zero. Why weren’t we born 150 years ago and already in Heaven or Hell? Or why aren’t we born 150 years from now? Why are we alive TODAY? The answer I believe is we were and we will. We all continue to reincarnate over and over and over again and living out our karma until we have enough human experiences to continue to evolve as souls. Think about this… why would a child come to Earth only to drown as 1 year old boy and then go to Heaven for all eternity? Why did he come here to begin with? Answer I believe is he needed that experience to continue to evolve. Hope this begins a new enlightened journey for someone here. When you do the research you have to conclude there is a much much bigger picture than simply living here on earth and then dying and going to heaven or hell. We always exist in some way shape or form. Either in spirit, or in a human form, but never in “Heaven” or “Hell”.

  153. donna servidio says:

    as you don’t believe ..yes some do as I do ….there is evidence of Christs teaching…..and any religion that just wants peace and love….what’s wrong with that? I will die serving the Lord God…you guys do what you believe……but don’t call us foolish….we don’t harp on you for what you feel is right……peace to you all……..I’d say God bless but you wouldn’t understand……

  154. R V Cummins says:

    I find it hypocritical those that refute religion due to lack of “evidence” believe in intergalactic aliens.

  155. Scott says:

    Well said trouble is there is to much conflicting information. Some supporting it and somed not, like as a lot of things. Problem is none of us were around way back then so history is hard to prove. Funny thing happened to me while reading the comment from Dee who is supporting the God Jesus thing. A large praying mantis landed in the middle of the comment on my screen and you do not see a lot of them here.

  156. Eddie Mikhail says:

    God is a historical legend of the legends of ancient covenants invented by man over the ages free from any proof of his existence; they are habitually dependent on (faith) and without rational or rational concepts, religions will fall automatically while there are scientific solutions about the lack of the Creator in the future.

  157. iddi says:

    So Christianity is false religion?

  158. It is a religion based on a myth. Jesus never existed. It is a fable, a story. Another religion based on a story is Judaism . Moses never existed

  159. Awakening from the darkness and the lies of Religion Indoctrination is the only way to see the wonders of reality.

  160. livinglyf says:

    I think this alone can also go a long way to prove that Islam is also false. Seeing that it affirmed Jesus. Please if anyone have a useful info on this, kindly send me the link.

  161. John Chewe says:

    The truth shall be revealed so soon

  162. Cal says:

    I must reply to all that I have read. Those people who judge others saying that they are so wrong and that only themselves are Christians/ they have never read the creed of Constantine or know who was there, what they were all about and how bias the vote was and who was doing the voting. Even though many showed up there was only a few representing different beliefs other than what all the Priest who were there to back Constantine in his political moves. It wasn’t really to find out who had the correct beliefs of Christ. It was loaded dice from the formation. It wasn’t about a effort to find who was right or wrong. It was a move to make certain they could declare a winner and from now on anyone fighting over their religious beliefs would be dealt with. (death if need be).

    I have heard many different beliefs and ideas hear but there is one thing we all know. Deep inside of us there is something guiding the majority of us in all our decisions. You have a funny feeling if you choose to make a decision that harms others. Many called it the light of Christ. My college room mate said I treat others the way I want to be treated. He wasn’t what you call religious but a fine man. That is what this life is all about. Treating others the way you would have them treat you. I knew him for 49 yrs. and that was the way he lived . Religious discussions were not an important thing but how you live and treated others .was his main concern.

    He was just as good a man as I have ever met and he had a wonderful life and family .
    After you are gone you leave a mark on those you come in contact with and that attitude you show to others is what makes you happy or a miserable person. How your children learn from you is so important. We are all a sum total of our environment, so you can leave a good name or a terrible name and attitude. It is a shame that the way you live has so much influence on your children, their friends and people you rub shoulders with. Be it good or bad. Argue about religion, fight about religion, cut off the heads of those who don’t see things as you do. Such a life is seen throughout the world. Some have a happy smiling experience and others life is so miserable, even those who just want to argue about how to determine the correct interpretation of a bible verse.

    One thing that happened to me I will never forget. Grandma was on her death bed, many were at the house, some in the bed room others in the living room. I can recall a few major things when I was young but this one is very clear to me this day.
    I was in the living room on the couch standing with my back against the back of the couch. I had been watching and listening to what was being said. All of a sudden something happened that caught my eye. Right in front of me I saw my favorite Uncle. He hadn’t been there all evening but he had just appeared out of no where. I said Uncle Crockett what are you doing here. That caught everyone in the rooms attention. They were focused on the direction I was looking. I could tell something was wrong. Where is Uncle Crockett they ask me. I pointed him right out just as soon as I was ask. Crockett isn’t here they said. Right there he is I said pointing at him again. No one believed me. It really moved me that I was the only person who saw him. For just as suddenly had he appeared he disappeared.
    My father was in the bedroom and was ask to come in because I was starting to tear up. He walked over picking me up and quietly ask about Uncle Crockett, His brother. I told him what had happened so he up the front door to a cold windy snowy night and walked with me out on the front porch and pointed at the ground showing me that no one had walked through the snow in or out of the house. He comforted me and would wait for the right time to tell me what I had seen.

    Dad, Crockett and a younger brother who had died a few years earlier in a accident all looked just a like. Yes there was a picture of all of them on the bed room dresser. You would think they were triplets. When I go a little older my father told me that my grandfather and his (dads) younger brother had come to be with grandma at her time to go. He explained by showing me the picture on the dresser that I hadn’t seen Uncle Crockett but the younger brother who had died and I had been named after him. For whatever that was worth in the event. Grandma was the only one beside myself that saw anyone and she had been talking to them in the bed room. Now that I am old I have heard of similar things happening preceding ones death. I have read many accounts and talked to hospice nurses, who all relate similar things like I experienced. I am old now and I know what I saw as I can see those few moments have been burned into my brain just like a dvd one would see. Yes its true and it tells me one thing that families can be eternal, if not God would send back angels to be with the passing person. He always sends back a worthy close friend or relative at that special time. Yes I know what I saw but uncertain why I was able to be the only person besides grandma to see anyone.

  163. Yahweh Messiah is a Faith not a religion which are all man-made. Christianity is a farce and a Satanic deceit. Constantine killed off the last of Yahweh’s elect in the 11th Roman Emperor persecution and after that this became Satan’s world fully. This is the only time in human history that Satan could deceive the whole world…….from Constantine up to the 7 Year Peace Plan when salvation is given again and Yahweh pours out the latter rain of His Spirit at that time. There is a real truth and it’s coming soon. That will be when you see miracles and healings again.

  164. Vung Tau says:


    All Western religions are frauds, by their day of worship you shall know their true god.

    1) Islam – Friday – Venus (Astarte)
    2) Judaism – Saturday – Saturn (Satan)
    3) Christianity – Sunday – Sun (Son)

    Because these faiths believe that time is linear, the planet is young and the centerstage of spirituality, that human life is brief, and heaven/hell is eternal (backed up by the perceived infallibility of their scriptures), they all have an impetus to claim dominion over the world, and to convert as many as possible to their ranks…. sometimes brutally.

    Western religions are utterly obsessed with the beginning (Creation vs BIg Bang, the flood) and the end (endtime events, prophecies, the afterlife) that they lose sight of the most important thing: now. What you do/think now in the present moment matters far more than pontificating and hair splitting about doctrinal issues which cannot be verified.

    Break free from the pernicious control of organized religions (who’re really after your time and money) and trust in your innate conscience to do the right thing.

    Belief in sin nature and a human heart that is ‘desperately wicked’ by default is a great impediment to your spiritual progress, because at the core of it is fear: fear of not being good enough, fear of eternal damnation, and for Christianity it is this fear which makes you delegate (outsource) your personal responsibility to Jesus.

  165. Lydia says:

    So wonderful to find you! I live in a white racist evangelical hillbilly white trash community in California. I have lost work because I’m not a Christian and don’t believe in that fake Jesus story, I get so sick of it, how stupid and ignorant can you be? It will never change, these freaks are more dangerous now than ever before because the Creep in the White House allows them to do what ever they want to do, this is all going to come to a head soon, there will be blood shed, if the Creep is not re-elected, the writing is on the wall my friends!

  166. Thank you a lot for yourkind and encouraging comment

  167. Cathy says:

    Thank you for your web page, much appreciated, to Lydia don’t give up on God the creator, these Christian believe in false hood, they are evil and want to blame Satan, if Satan was rebuke by God in the Old testament, why are they still blaming him? go and ask a Christian if Jesus died for your sins if that the reason why the are sinning so much, and to tell you Jesus got a lot on his place when comes to Judgement day, Catholic and Christian are the same as scientist forever involving.

  168. Michael says:

    JUSTIN what you are describing and have discovered on your own is Hinduism. I far more enlightened and very old religion. Some say infinitely old. Read up on it. It makes sense. It rings true. There is a supreme being. It’s just not the same crowd control nonsense you find in the Judeo Christian Bible. It’s also not rammed down your throat. Christians often adapt their beliefs to suit their true feelings not actually realising that there is a religion that is infinitely old that actually supports their beliefs. Give it a go. I’ll be surprised if you don’t see the light.

  169. Grego says:

    It’s a false dichotomy in logic that all ex-Christians make. Christianity is nonsense therefore God does not exist. All cats have 4 legs. That dog has 4 legs therefore it’s a cat. Ironically that mistake is made exactly because of your Christian up bringing which is based on one huge myth; That only the Abrahamic religions worship the one true good. (the hubris is astounding). There is a transcendent all pervasive supreme being. It’s part of all of us and every living thing.

  170. Carlos Sanchez says:

    Lactancio was the first that came with the idea of Jesus .He was the one to persuade Constantine telling him that God was mad with Rome because they worship many Gods. And therefore they have to come up with only one God .so they invented this half man and half God which is Jesus and Constantine brougt along Eusebious de cesarea this man was a historian and Lactancio was rhetoric teacher or atorny.

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